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Poster: William Tell Date: Apr 6, 2013 12:05pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: The Doors (non-Dead)

Hey jl--whoa, that's actually new to me, and certainly has to rank as the worst...no excusing, only trying to understand (to the degree possible), I wonder if for some of these he was literally drunk (again no excuse)...eg, at the end of the 9-19-70 LL, when he and Phil come back (to tell the fans why they can't play any more), he is clearly angry/cranky/drunk?, dismissive and combative (I am reading a lot into it...). Nonetheless, the "c" word, except when used on the basketball court after a hacker like Flow or Dire has undercut you on wide open layup, is virtually inexcusable w regard to usage for our XX lady friends of any sort.

Anyhoo--maybe it requires no explanation except that they were NEVER the sorts to stand up to anyone/anything, but strange that Jerry and Phil and the others never even seem to have any reaction to it, ya know? Or at most, Bobby playfully interacts w him over it...during or after shows. ONe would think some of the gals might have had something to say about it all one way or the otehr.

I will say the early yrs, say Mid Hr or GMLSG, in 66, have more of the less sexist drivel in his raps, and even the very appealing "...that's it...play your guitar..." exchanges w Jerry.

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Poster: jerlouvis Date: Apr 6, 2013 12:44pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: The Doors (non-Dead)

I can't imagine the band identifying with those sentiments,but it seems they just chalked it up to letting Pig be Pig.It isn't so much this one instance,but many separate one's in a similar vein that would make you lose respect for the guy as far as how he interacted with women and degraded them with his ignorant remarks.He is obviously drunk on that recording and I can't say how much of those type theatrics are driven by his stage act,but if your'e stupid enough to say it then it doesn't really matter.

After all my bad mouthing there are probably a dozen or so Lovelight's I consider to be extraordinary,unique performances with Pig playing a central role.I am not well versed in the 65'-67' part of their history as the focus is too much on the blues and the level of musicianship is not quite developed enough for my liking.